movies are cool. here is a place to talk about how cool they are. or maybe how much they suck, sometimes. like that fucking piece of shit 'mac and me'. worst fucking movie ever, a two-hour ad for fucking coca-cola.
Minor spoiler, JJL, but really minor, since you've already seen the movie:
In the novel, Rorschach sees everything in the test as the dog with its head bashed in or his mother (who was prostituting--dunno if the movie includes that) with a "client." He keeps giving bullshit answers like "duckies" and "fluffy clouds" and the shrink knows it's bullshit. Finally, either Rorschach tires of it or the shrink says he knows he's lying, and Rorschach admits to seeing the dead dog. "Who bashed its head in?" "I did." Then he gives the full account of finding the dogs eating the dead girl and how he kills them and the kidnapper and basically went from being something of a hero in a silly costume to a vigilante with absolutely no faith in human nature. It really gets under the psychiatrist's skin until he's killed in the giant (squid) explosion.
In the movie, you can kind of see that they're going for that. I think I was fucked up with all the flashbacks and shit so it didn't catch on that this was the time he lost his faith in humanity (I think that was more my own fault than Snyder's).
The psychiatrist's reaction isn't really shown, though. You see him again at the end before the explosion, and his briefcase opens and the Rorschach test cards fall out all slow motiony.
I think what they needed to show (but didn't) was the time when the Watchmen were on top. I got the impression that they were never well-liked aside from the opening credits - which were really visually and aurally cool, but could have been expanded to form more of a cohesive story. Maybe I need to see it again, but I think I will wait for the extended DVD version.
I can't speak definitively, but it looks from what I've seen and read that the 40s group is the Minutemen, and the 60s group that didn't really go anywhere is the Watchmen rather than an attempt to revive the Minutemen.
One of the released clips has Nite Owl actually referring to the Watchmen as being "no more."
*--For behavior unbecoming anyone, perpetrated in real time over an extended--AH, FUCK IT! MORE MALIBU, BITCHES!!
It's kind of confusing as to why they break up or get together in the first place, apart from them getting pregnant or going crazy or whatever. But the 40s group is the Minutemen and the rest seems to be Watchmen.
Minor spoiler, JJL, but really minor, since you've already seen the movie:
In the novel, Rorschach sees everything in the test as the dog with its head bashed in or his mother (who was prostituting--dunno if the movie includes that) with a "client." He keeps giving bullshit answers like "duckies" and "fluffy clouds" and the shrink knows it's bullshit. Finally, either Rorschach tires of it or the shrink says he knows he's lying, and Rorschach admits to seeing the dead dog. "Who bashed its head in?" "I did." Then he gives the full account of finding the dogs eating the dead girl and how he kills them and the kidnapper and basically went from being something of a hero in a silly costume to a vigilante with absolutely no faith in human nature. It really gets under the psychiatrist's skin until he's killed in the giant (squid) explosion.
they basically get the most important bits of the process with the psychologist in one session, but don't go into the way it causes stress in his home life.
as for the minutemen/watchmen - yes, the 40's group is the minutemen and the 60's false-start was proposed to be 'watchmen' instead of 'crime-busters' like in the comic.
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FINALLY got a chance to see Watchmen today. Fucking awesome!
I really don't know what the haters are bitching about, aside from the usual bitching just to hear themselves bitch.
The cast was all really good, especially Rorschach. He was so good in fact that it was easy to overlook the Christian Bale Batman-style voice and David Letterman announcer Alan Kalter looks.
As for the female cast, there words: giggity giggity giggity.
I actually like the movie ending better than the comic ending. It makes a lot more sense and isn't so...left field (as someone else here put it).
The only thing I didn't like - Nixon. That was some horrid make up.
"As they say in China, 'Arrivederci'!"
*For the creation of the Golden Deuce Award.
Okay, I finally saw it, and I actually liked it more than the comic.
I just really didn't like the alien monster in the comic, and I wasn't a fan of Tales of the Black Freighter.
Also, I would have never thought they could have gotten so much of the comic into the movie, I think they did a great job there. While I am in love with Malin Ackerman and would like her to have ten of my babies, I wasn't such a fan of her performance, as hers is the storyline that really gives the story its emotional pull. That's just a minor gripe.
Good movie, I wish more people would have liked it.
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Diabolical wrote:FINALLY got a chance to see Watchmen today. Fucking awesome!
I really don't know what the haters are bitching about, aside from the usual bitching just to hear themselves bitch.
The cast was all really good, especially Rorschach.
I heard this guy on the radio, mighta been NPR. He was in movies I loved as a kid, Bad News Bears and Breaking Away. His career burnt out and his father gambled away all his money. He was 30 and delivering pizzas, living with mom. Apparently the dude making "Little Children" wanted to put him in it and had to track him down the old fashioned way, and boom! Oscar nomination. And now he is a serious actor and toast of the town. He made some comment about how amazing it was to have lightening strike twice.
It's a great story and it really could not have happened to a cooler dude. If you guys haven't seen "Breaking Away", please put it in your queue. It really is a great film. It has Quaid, Daniel Stern, and a chick from Battlestar Galactica. Old school Battlestar Galactica.
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Jackie Earle Haley has also signed on to play Freddy Krueger in the Nightmare On Elm Street remake.
Even though it's yet another unnecessary remake, I think he might be able to pull off a good Freddy.
"As they say in China, 'Arrivederci'!"
*For the creation of the Golden Deuce Award.
