Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
Bought the Batman 80th Anniversary box set today. 18 animated movies for $40!
Gotham Knight
Year One
Under the Red Hood
Bad Blood
Batman vs Robin
Son of Batman
Dark Knight Returns Parts I and II
Assault on Arkham
The Killing Joke
Batman and Harley Quinn
Gotham by Gaslight
Ninja
Return of the Caped Crusaders
Mask of the Phantasm
Mystery of the Batwoman
S/B:Public Enemies
S/B:Apocalypse
I had a couple of these already, but the majority I don’t have.
Gotham Knight
Year One
Under the Red Hood
Bad Blood
Batman vs Robin
Son of Batman
Dark Knight Returns Parts I and II
Assault on Arkham
The Killing Joke
Batman and Harley Quinn
Gotham by Gaslight
Ninja
Return of the Caped Crusaders
Mask of the Phantasm
Mystery of the Batwoman
S/B:Public Enemies
S/B:Apocalypse
I had a couple of these already, but the majority I don’t have.
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
Good deal.
Under the Red Hood is better than most live action Batman movies.
Year One and TDKR are both well done also.
Half of The Killing Joke is good. Half is crap.
Batman and Harley Quinn is watchable. The fart joke in the Batmobile and the sex scene are a bit out of place though.
And Mask of the Phantasm is good, of course.
Under the Red Hood is better than most live action Batman movies.
Year One and TDKR are both well done also.
Half of The Killing Joke is good. Half is crap.
Batman and Harley Quinn is watchable. The fart joke in the Batmobile and the sex scene are a bit out of place though.
And Mask of the Phantasm is good, of course.
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
Did you ever get an official Master of Understatement medal?Diabolical wrote:And Mask of the Phantasm is good, of course.
Calling Mask of the Phantasm good is like saying Hitler wasn't very nice.

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We realized my son doesn't remember the Burton films and had a bit of a marathon yesterday: Batman and Batman Returns, followed by the two greatest Batman parodies, The Batman Lego Movie and Teen Titans Go! to the Movies.
They all hold up. And there are so damned many Easter eggs in the last two, I wouldn't be surprised if no one has caught them all.
They all hold up. And there are so damned many Easter eggs in the last two, I wouldn't be surprised if no one has caught them all.

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The Lego Batman Movie isn't parody, its canon. - the movie says so!
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HBO Max announced they’ll be streaming the Zack Snyder cut of Justice League on the new service next year after incessant clamoring by fans for the last (what seems like) 20 years.
Good. Maybe they’ll shut the fuck up about it now.
CBR would post something Snyder-adjacent almost every other day like 99% of fandom gives a fuck. It was getting tedious. Snyder cut this. Snyder cut that. SHUT THE FUCK UP. It was a mediocre film. Releasing his version is not going to turn it into the new Citizen Kane. Do people not remember what a turd BvsS was?
Good. Maybe they’ll shut the fuck up about it now.
CBR would post something Snyder-adjacent almost every other day like 99% of fandom gives a fuck. It was getting tedious. Snyder cut this. Snyder cut that. SHUT THE FUCK UP. It was a mediocre film. Releasing his version is not going to turn it into the new Citizen Kane. Do people not remember what a turd BvsS was?
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Call me nuts, but, while I don't think Whedon is infallible, I think Justice League was doomed from the start by having two very different directors, but Whedon is most likely the reason it wasn't a total shitfest.
That last scene of Flash and Supes? That was fucking gold. And you know that wasn't Snyder. (He would've had Flash win, in near total darkness, and then Superman gets pissed and drips his head off so he can piss on his corpse.)
That last scene of Flash and Supes? That was fucking gold. And you know that wasn't Snyder. (He would've had Flash win, in near total darkness, and then Superman gets pissed and drips his head off so he can piss on his corpse.)
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And the entire race between the fastest men alive would have been 100% in slow motion.
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
So we've seen a billion more superhero movies since BB came out. Hit me with your current top 5. Fine, I'll go first.
Captain America: First Avenger
Avengers: Infinity War & Endgame - no idea which one I prefer
and I'll throw Sin City & Watchmen on there to be edgy but honestly it could be an all-Marvel top 5. Ragnarok is close.
Captain America: First Avenger
Avengers: Infinity War & Endgame - no idea which one I prefer
and I'll throw Sin City & Watchmen on there to be edgy but honestly it could be an all-Marvel top 5. Ragnarok is close.
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Hard to narrow it down to Five. Honorable mentions to Dredd for nailing the character, Both Guardians for the soundtracks and one-liners, Deadpool for doing the impossible and making Wade a sensation, and Wonder Woman for casting Gal.
5. X-Men:DoFP. Combining both trilogies casts and “fixing” The Last Stand. One of the best non-MCU Marvel movies to date.
4. The Dark Knight. The best Batman movie so far.
3. Civil War. Fiege and co. were afraid B vs S might be good and didn’t hesitate to pull out all the stops and make Avengers 2.5. Black Panther. Giant-Man. And Imagine if they’d kept the Spidey reveal a secret?
2. Winter Soldier. A rock solid action flick from beginning to end.
1. Avengers. Seeing the dream of a cohesive “Universe” finally fully realized onscreen for the first time made me fucking cry tears of joy. My 12 year old self time traveled and hi-fived me, but he wouldn’t have appreciated what he was seeing as much 38 year old me did.
5. X-Men:DoFP. Combining both trilogies casts and “fixing” The Last Stand. One of the best non-MCU Marvel movies to date.
4. The Dark Knight. The best Batman movie so far.
3. Civil War. Fiege and co. were afraid B vs S might be good and didn’t hesitate to pull out all the stops and make Avengers 2.5. Black Panther. Giant-Man. And Imagine if they’d kept the Spidey reveal a secret?
2. Winter Soldier. A rock solid action flick from beginning to end.
1. Avengers. Seeing the dream of a cohesive “Universe” finally fully realized onscreen for the first time made me fucking cry tears of joy. My 12 year old self time traveled and hi-fived me, but he wouldn’t have appreciated what he was seeing as much 38 year old me did.
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
In no particular order: Batman: The Movie (1966), Deadpool 1 & 2, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Mystery Men.
Honorable Mentions:
Watchmen - I had this in my top 5, but then I couldn't decide which Deadpool movie I liked better.
GOTG 2
The Specials- I haven't seen it in years, so I'm not sure if it holds up.
Batman (Michael Keyton)
V for Vendetta
Hellboy I/II
Spiderman Homecoming
Honorable Mentions:
Watchmen - I had this in my top 5, but then I couldn't decide which Deadpool movie I liked better.
GOTG 2
The Specials- I haven't seen it in years, so I'm not sure if it holds up.
Batman (Michael Keyton)
V for Vendetta
Hellboy I/II
Spiderman Homecoming
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
Guardians I - soooo good & I didn't consider the Deadpool movies - I should have taken my time. All good choices & all worthy of anyone's lists.
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
Holy double secret identity, Batman! The Joker must have changed his name to Zack Snyder and sabotaged the Bat-Computer! And what would the Joker do with a crowbar?
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At this point, Snyder has had to explain more of the narrative of his films after the fact than was presented in the films themselves.
This is known in the vernacular as ‘shitty storytelling’.
Someone: “So what about this plot hole?”
Snyder: “Oh that’s not a plot hole. We didn’t show it the movie but [rationalizes plot hole away with trivial retconned detail] so now the movie is perf again.”
Someone: “Ohhhhh...so what about THIS plot hole?”
Snyder: “Look I can do this all day...”
This is known in the vernacular as ‘shitty storytelling’.
Someone: “So what about this plot hole?”
Snyder: “Oh that’s not a plot hole. We didn’t show it the movie but [rationalizes plot hole away with trivial retconned detail] so now the movie is perf again.”
Someone: “Ohhhhh...so what about THIS plot hole?”
Snyder: “Look I can do this all day...”
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Re: Batman Begins: The best superhero film of all time
Tom Foolery wrote:Snyder: “Look I can do this all day...”
Life is short. STUNT IT!