How I realized I was over Star Wars completely

[jjreason]

Hmm. Didn't really hit the note for me. I don't think he should be able to effect/affect things in the living world, other than by contact with the living.

[anarky]

I'm with JJ.

I also still think ROTS would have been a million times better if they'd just had Qui-Gon show up as a blue ghost right as Obi-Wan excitedly says, "Qui-Gon?" As it is, he looks like he's high on something and there's no concrete reason for him to believe Yoda.

That, and/or a voiceover from Liam Neeson right at the end of the Yoda/Sidious fight where Qui-Gon says something like, "You cannot win, Yoda. Save yourself. For the sake of the galaxy, run."

[Senor JabbaJohnL]

Well, they're seemingly not going to cut it into ROTS, so I'm super glad they're doing it here. I've been wanting answers to the Force ghost issue since 1999, Sifo-Dyas since 2002, and Order 66 since 2005, so I'm excited that TCW is going to address all of these in the final 13 episodes. March 7 is going to rock my tits off.

[vynsane]

i'm not really against him force-levitating stuff but if we see him show up brandishing a force-ghost lightsaber against darth vader or something, then that's a horse of a different color.

[anarky]

Two trailers for Rebels were released today. It actually looks worse than Clone Wars (and y'all know what a raging CW fan I am). Granted, this is probably because the emphasis is on some dickweed kid and this won't be the case in the show, but, yeah, it looks like shit for little kiddies.

[Ran]

Since when are cartoons for kids? What the hell is Disney thinking?

I found one of the trailers. Can't say it sparked any interest.

[anarky]

C'mon, you know what I mean. Cartoons are for kids, but a good cartoon can be equally for adults. I don't mean in the "naughty innuendo" way that Looney Toons or Animaniacs sometimes are, but just intelligent storytelling without pandering. The 2000s version of Thundercats was much better than the original, for instance, since Snarf was a non-character and the Kittens were portrayed as tagalongs. This kid with a blaster-shooting slingshot (WTF?) looks like pandering of the worst sort.

[Diabolical]

C'mon, you know what I mean. Cartoons are for kids, but a good cartoon can be equally for adults. I don't mean in the "naughty innuendo" way that Looney Toons or Animaniacs sometimes are, but just intelligent storytelling without pandering.

[Ran]

C'mon, you know what I mean. Cartoons are for kids, but a good cartoon can be equally for adults. I don't mean in the "naughty innuendo" way that Looney Toons or Animaniacs sometimes are, but just intelligent storytelling without pandering. The 2000s version of Thundercats was much better than the original, for instance, since Snarf was a non-character and the Kittens were portrayed as tagalongs. This kid with a blaster-shooting slingshot (WTF?) looks like pandering of the worst sort.

For the record, I knew exactly what you meant. Between Hasbro and animated series, they seem to be focusing more on the kid stuff lately.

[anarky]

I figured you did. But if Grant Morrison's trolling for ideas, he might not get it.

DB, that's exactly what I was thinking.

[anarky]

In any case, I'm glad the kid's still getting work almost thirty years later.

(28 seconds in, you'll see what I mean.)

[Senor JabbaJohnL]

You said the same stuff about Ahsoka for – well, the show's entire run. She aged, she matured, she went through trials and grew as a character, and I'm assuming that the same will happen here. As is usually the case with TV and movie characters, otherwise Luke would be a whiny farmboy for three films and Breaking Bad would just be about a poor teacher who dies of cancer (to use the most extreme example of character change in recent memory).

Anyway, the thing that bothers me about the Rebels reveals so far is that it's a near-exact copy of the ANH crew, with some traits shared between characters:

*Ezra Bridger - a teenager on a frontier planet with a Biblical name and unknown Force abilities
*Kanan Jarrus - an older Jedi who survived Order 66, went into hiding and now trains the new Jedi; also a gunslinger who refers to the younger hero as "kid"
*Zeb Orrelios - a respected warrior on his home planet who provides the muscle, based directly on McQuarrie Chewbacca concept art
*Sabine - the feisty girl who doesn't play by the rules; also wears customized, colorful Mandalorian armor
*Hera Syndulla - the pilot of a junker ship with initials H.S. (and "Hera Syndulla" sounds like "Harrison"); also the daughter of a revolutionary who fought in the Clone Wars
*C1-10P "Chopper" - the astromech droid with a personality of his own
*Inquisitor - the Empire's Jedi hunter with black armor and a red lightsaber
*Agent Kallus - the human face of the Empire

So you have your basic Luke, Obi-Wan, Leia, Chewbacca, R2-D2, Vader, and Tarkin types, with Han spread between a few of them and Boba thrown in for good measure, not to mention that the Ghost is clearly in the same vein as the Falcon. Remember that these are just the archetypes, and I'll be interested in seeing how they change and reveal their complexities over time, since I still feel the team in place knows how to tell good stories and has a proven track record of interesting character development. But still, it's worth noting and a little strange.

[Diabolical]

Full trailer for Season 6 of Clone Wars.
Good editing - almost looks kinda good.

[Diabolical]

A few years ago Topher Grace re-edited the Prequel trilogy in one 85 minute film.
Only a small handful of people have actually seen it.
He just released a trailer for it (here), which sounds awesome, but it just looks like a well made fan-made trailer, as you really don't get a sense of what the re-edited film will be.
A rundown of the film is here.
I'd love to see it someday.

[Diabolical]

starwars.com has released an official chronology for The Clone Wars.

Star Wars: The Clone Wars Chronological Episode Order List
Air # Title
1 216 Cat and Mouse
2 116 Hidden Enemy
T The Clone Wars theatrical release
3 301 Clone Cadets
4 303 Supply Lines
5 101 Ambush
6 102 Rising Malevolence
7 103 Shadow of Malevolence
8 104 Destroy Malevolence
9 105 Rookies
10 106 Downfall of a Droid
11 107 Duel of the Droids
12 108 Bombad Jedi
13 109 Cloak of Darkness
14 110 Lair of Grievous
15 111 Dooku Captured
16 112 The Gungan General
17 113 Jedi Crash
18 114 Defenders of Peace
19 115 Trespass
20 117 Blue Shadow Virus
21 118 Mystery of a Thousand Moons
22 119 Storm over Ryloth
23 120 Innocents of Ryloth
24 121 Liberty on Ryloth
25 201 Holocron Heist
26 202 Cargo of Doom
27 203 Children of the Force
28 217 Bounty Hunters
29 218 The Zillo Beast
30 219 The Zillo Beast Strikes Back
31 204 Senate Spy
32 205 Landing at Point Rain
33 206 Weapons Factory
34 207 Legacy of Terror
35 208 Brain Invaders
36 209 Grievous Intrigue
37 210 The Deserter
38 211 Lightsaber Lost
39 212 The Mandalore Plot
40 213 Voyage of Temptation
41 214 Duchess of Mandalore
42 220 Death Trap
43 221 R2 Come Home
44 222 Lethal Trackdown
45 305 Corruption
46 306 The Academy
47 307 Assassin
48 302 ARC Troopers
49 304 Sphere of Influence
50 308 Evil Plans
51 122 Hostage Crisis
52 309 Hunt for Ziro
53 310 Heroes on Both Side
54 311 Pursuit of Peace
55 215 Senate Murders
56 312 Nightsisters
57 313 Monster
58 314 Witches of the Mist
59 315 Overlords
60 316 Altar of Mortis
61 317 Ghosts of Mortis
62 318 The Citadel
63 319 Counter Attack
64 320 Citadel Rescue
65 321 Padawan Lost
66 322 Wookiee Hunt
67 401 Water War
68 402 Gungan Attack
69 403 Prisoners
70 404 Shadow Warrior
71 405 Mercy Mission
72 406 Nomad Droids
73 407 Darkness on Umbara
74 408 The General
75 409 Plan of Dissent
76 410 Carnage of Krell
77 411 Kidnapped
78 412 Slaves of the Republic
79 413 Escape from Kadavo
80 414 A Friend In Need
81 415 Deception
82 416 Friends and Enemies
83 417 The Box
84 418 Crisis on Naboo
85 419 Massacre
86 420 Bounty
87 421 Brothers
88 422 Revenge
89 502 A War on Two Fronts
90 503 Front Runners
91 504 The Soft War
92 505 Tipping Points
93 506 The Gathering
94 507 A Test of Strength
95 508 Bound for Rescue
96 509 A Necessary Bond
97 510 Secret Weapons
98 511 A Sunny Day in the Void
99 512 Missing in Action
100 513 Point of No Return
101 501 Revival
102 514 Eminence
103 515 Shades of Reason
104 516 The Lawless
105 517 Sabotage
106 518 The Jedi Who Knew Too Much
107 519 To Catch a Jedi
108 520 The Wrong Jedi
109 601 The Unknown
110 602 Conspiracy
111 603 Fugitive
112 604 Orders
113 605 An Old Friend
114 606 The Rise of Clovis
115 607 Crisis at the Heart
116 608 The Disappeared
117 609 The Disappeared: Pt. II
118 610 The Lost One
119 611 Voices
120 612 Destiny
121 613 Sacrifice