Ran wrote:Someone refresh my memory. I was just flipping though the channels and turned on Attack of the Clones. It was the scene where Dooku was talking to Obi-Wan about Darth Sidious being in control of the Senate. Was ever explained exactly who's side Dooku was on? Was he really working for Sidious or was he just playing along so he could take him down?
I thought it was to confuse Obi-Wan by deliberately telling him the truth, but Dooku's intentions aren't exactly clear. But yeah, it also seems like an echo of Vader trying to get Luke to join him - the apprentice wanting to take another apprentice and take down the master. In TCW, Sidious orders Dooku to kill Ventress since he's worried she's getting too strong and becoming a threat, but then Dooku turns right around and starts training Savage, so he's definitely not completely subservient to Sidious. It seems that Dooku really was disillusioned with the Republic and the Jedi, but went too far in joining Sidious. It's possible that he wanted Obi-Wan to join him due to their connection to Qui-Gon, but decided to kill him instead when Obi-Wan declined.
Diabolical wrote:I've always thought that bit was clunky and unclear (just like the whatever the Trade Federation was protesting in Episode I or the whole Sifo-Dyas thing*), but I read that as Dooku trying to backstab Sidious, similar to Vader's "join me" pitch to Luke on Bespin.
"The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute." Basically the Trade Federation didn't get their way in trade negotiations and decided to starve out the Naboo until they acquiesced. The novel
Darth Plagueis explained the background politics in thorough detail better than anything I've ever read, but I've never had a problem with the movie glossing over the backstory since I feel it still gives enough information to go on - I mean, clarity is always good in storytelling, but do people
really think they wanted more political backstory?
On the Sifo-Dyas point, I'm very glad that TCW is dealing with it in the upcoming bonus episodes. They should've probably just said that the clones were ordered by the Jedi Council, or even by Qui-Gon, or something, since introducing an unseen character whose name is suspiciously similar to Sidious but is still recognized by Obi-Wan is a confusing choice. "Palpatine is behind everything" is still an explanation given in the films and I think is enough to cover the broad strokes, whether or not it's as thorough as we'd like. In the original script, the given name was Sido-Dyas, so the fact that it was Sidious and not some dude we've never heard of before was more obvious.
Ran wrote:I forgot how bad the droid factory scene was, both the C-3PO part and the Anakin/Padme part.
In the middle of those scenes, when Jango Fett and Dooku are standing on the platform in the arena, my wife points out that the sculpting on the sides of the platform look like vaginas. Pause this video around 2:45 to see what I mean.
I didn't watch the very end of AOTC, but ended up catching the beginning of Revenge of the Sith. Probably a stupid question, but why didn't Obi-Wan just force push those little droids that were carving up his spaceship and droid?
I still wish that they'd release the IMAX cut of AOTC someday - it flowed better and the more awkward moments were cut out, including some of the droid factory business. I think of all the films, AOTC is the most flawed, and my least favorite. It's clear that the script was rewritten in such a way that it made some things make less sense - for god's sake, the name of the movie doesn't even make that much sense, since the clones were originally supposed to turn against (attack!) the Jedi in this film.
Back to TCW - in the final arc of Season Five, there's a buzz droid sequence where they attack Anakin and Ahsoka. Anakin holds off a few of them by putting his hand up to the glass and Force pushing them off, but eventually they overtake his ship's systems and the electric shock causes him to pass out. I thought that was a more menacing use of the droids.
Shit. I can't think of a good signature.
