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Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:53 pm
by anarky
So you're confirming what I suspected, that, in spite of some of their writers demonstrating a good grasp of history, "western" stories take place in a New York analogue located in a neighboring state, never mind major differences in culture, geography, climate, economy, laws, statehood, etc. I'm guessing because Johns or Lee wanted to use a classic title, have a book about Jonah Hex, and set it in Gotham.

Why am I not hearing more people bitch about this?

Central City would be a better choice for a setting, wouldn't you think? Or maybe even Coast City.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:45 pm
by vynsane
i can't confirm anything, because i haven't read any of this shit. but yeah, that's what i suspect.

you're not hearing anyone bitch about it because the only people contributing to these "major sales jumps" are people who were on the DC bandwagon in the first place, but not necessarily reading all the books. now they are, apparently. i'd LOVE to know if DCnU brought in ONE legitimate actual NEW comic book reader, and not just lapsed DC readers.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:07 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
I'm hoping it brought it some new readers. And by readers, I mean quasi-speculators. I could give a fuck if they actually read 'em. I just want them to dump their issues on eBay in a couple years so I can grab them up for pennies.

DC should either commit to fake cities or real cities. But not both.
It's stupid that Ollie Queen kept bouncing between Seattle and its faux doppleganger Star City and back.
Or that NYC, Metropolis, and Gotham would all exist within a small distance from each other. And Gateway City and DC being practically next door to those three. DCs East Coast must resemble Judge Dredd's MegaCityOne.
Also, Batman loses about 90% of his cool cred when you consider him the Hero of New Jersey...

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:53 pm
by anarky
True, but Jersey's reputation makes Gotham and Bludhaven's depravity seem more realistic.

Then again, they could say Michigan or Illinois and have even more justification for that. Except that "Gotham" indicates it's clearly a New York surrogate. (I say that not to offend the folks here from Michigan, but because Detroit and East Saint Louis are the large cities with the worst overall reputations in the country. I know 99% of both states aren't like those two cities, but it doesn't change their reps.)

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:06 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
I always thought Flash's Central City/Keystone City was a stand in for St. Louis/East St. Louis.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:00 pm
by anarky
Which is odd, because ESL is the cesspool of the US, from what I understand (find a book called Savage Inequalities--it's about education specifically, but has some disturbing descriptions of the place), and both Central and Keystone Cities are supposed to be these wonderful beacons of all that's good, minus the occasional supervillain bank robbery.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:00 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
Well, they've always kinda pitched it as Central=White Collar and Keystone=Blue Collar with all the factories and such.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:50 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
Looks like Judd Winick has also diplomatically bowed out of DCs bullshit. He just did it classy and low key, unlike that spastic pantywaist Rob Liefeld.

He had already left Catwoman, he turned down Green Arrow, and now he's leaving Batwing.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:18 am
by RoIIo Tomassi
Superman and Wonder Woman are on match.com.

We need a facepalm emoticon.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:16 am
by anarky
Here's the real reason to hate the DCnU:

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/20 ... ably-epic/

God damn you all to Hell, DC!!!

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:30 am
by RoIIo Tomassi
My new theory is whoever runs Warner Bros thought comics were stupid growing up and is now doing everything in his or her power to ruin them.
Or maybe it's Diane Nelson doing that. All the truly heinous, horrendous shit has happened since she took over. Like promoting Geoff Johns and hiring Bob Harras.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:31 am
by RoIIo Tomassi
Scott Snyder and Jim Lee are doing a Superman:Man of Steel to coincide with the film next year. I was going to ask if it was in [Comic or Film] continuity.

But then I realized that nothing DC is writing is in continuity. Moot point.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:57 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
DC continues to ruin Tim Drake.
Classy how the editors just changed Lobdell's story without asking and then sent him a Tweet or whatever after the fact. I'm assuming he's "okay" with that because he needs the work and doesn't want to publicly say they're having an Asshole contest at DC and everyone is tied for First Place.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:26 pm
by anarky
So, wait, it appears Tim, prior to becoming Robin (or not, since he never was), did some sort of stunt to get Batman's attention, and it wound up getting the family put in witness protection?

What. The. Fuck?

This makes Frankencastle look like motherfucking Huckleberry Finn.

Re: Questions about DC's relaunch

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:47 pm
by RoIIo Tomassi
I posted this in the forums and CBR promptly removed it.
Weird how DC stopped publishing comics in 2011 and started up a fertilizer plant and nobody seemed to notice.
A few people responded and their posts also got removed.