
How I realized I was over Star Wars completely
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Re: How I realized I was over Star Wars completely
Yeah, I really felt embarrassed by the Yoda fight - watching it with people who know how much stake I have in Star Wars & they're laughing uncontrollably about the frog on a hotplate. Why on earth did they not just re-create Darth vs Luke in ESB? Darth's quiet mastery of the force was what brought down Luke the first time - it could have easily been done that way between Yoda & Dooku. So many missed opportunities. 

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And a Blue-on-blue lightsaber duel as your epic finale? For a movie saga steeped in so much symbolism, that's just a wretchedly inept production choice.
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Speaking of lightsaber symbolism, what about Mace having the only purple saber? Purple = blue + red. That should've meant something other than "the actor asked to have purple."
The insistence on changing things between films bugged me. Kit Fisto was the most glaring one. He looks like two different characters, and not because they re-cast him like they did Adi Gallia and Eeth Koth. ("Stass Allie" and "Agen Kolar" retcons aside, Lucas clearly meant them to be the same characters.) Lightsabers changed from movie to movie with no reason quite frequently. Pre-Bllu-Ray, the stupid insistence that Yoda look younger in TPM than he had in ESB was ridiculous (what's 30 years to a 900-year-old space elf?), but switching him back in AOTC? Huh?
Dooku could've been fucking wicked. He just spun his saber around in circles, though. I appreciate they wanted to show a different style of saber dueling, but, really, just spinning it? No matter how old Christopher Lee gets, he always has the potential to kick ass. They should've had him (and Yoda) focusing more on the "magical" aspects of the Force than on straight dueling. At their ages and skill levels, they should have moved beyond that.
The insistence on changing things between films bugged me. Kit Fisto was the most glaring one. He looks like two different characters, and not because they re-cast him like they did Adi Gallia and Eeth Koth. ("Stass Allie" and "Agen Kolar" retcons aside, Lucas clearly meant them to be the same characters.) Lightsabers changed from movie to movie with no reason quite frequently. Pre-Bllu-Ray, the stupid insistence that Yoda look younger in TPM than he had in ESB was ridiculous (what's 30 years to a 900-year-old space elf?), but switching him back in AOTC? Huh?
Dooku could've been fucking wicked. He just spun his saber around in circles, though. I appreciate they wanted to show a different style of saber dueling, but, really, just spinning it? No matter how old Christopher Lee gets, he always has the potential to kick ass. They should've had him (and Yoda) focusing more on the "magical" aspects of the Force than on straight dueling. At their ages and skill levels, they should have moved beyond that.

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Excellent posts, all of you. Seriously well done...when I get more time I'd like to comment on some of the specifics.
No joking here, I enjoyed reading all of your comments on this for a few reasons. Mainly because it's been 3 months since we bought our house and I finally have all of my memorabilia out of storage and on display in our basement now. I love it! And even though I sold a shit-ton of stuff 5 and 1/2 years ago (it helped break me of lots of bad habits with regard to being a completist as well as over-spending), I still have a good amount of stuff on display and since I haven't seen it outside my storage totes in several years, it's been a blast setting up. Very nostalgic.
So, while this thread is about being "over" Star Wars, I certainly am not (and even last year I was still on a SW kick because we saw Star Wars in Concert, which was a real treat). But I know others are over it and for you sirs to take the time to articulate some of your criticisms WITHIN the prequels (instead of the usual broad strokes of criticism I see on the web), well I appreciate it.
No joking here, I enjoyed reading all of your comments on this for a few reasons. Mainly because it's been 3 months since we bought our house and I finally have all of my memorabilia out of storage and on display in our basement now. I love it! And even though I sold a shit-ton of stuff 5 and 1/2 years ago (it helped break me of lots of bad habits with regard to being a completist as well as over-spending), I still have a good amount of stuff on display and since I haven't seen it outside my storage totes in several years, it's been a blast setting up. Very nostalgic.
So, while this thread is about being "over" Star Wars, I certainly am not (and even last year I was still on a SW kick because we saw Star Wars in Concert, which was a real treat). But I know others are over it and for you sirs to take the time to articulate some of your criticisms WITHIN the prequels (instead of the usual broad strokes of criticism I see on the web), well I appreciate it.
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I'd love to see pics of your ManCave.
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I'd just like to slip inside his man-cave. Ooooooooyays!
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That's not even CLOSE to the gayest thing you've ever said.Rollo Tomassi wrote:I'd love to see pics of your ManCave.
Dumbass.
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It feels a bit odd to see Darth Maul's face plastered all over soda bottles again.

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Jesus fuck, I'm putting this here instead of the Books forum.
If you give even the smallest piece of a shit about Star Wars anymore, read Darth Plagueis. No shit. This is the single biggest story since Episode III. It might even be bigger than Episode III, since we already knew Anakin would turn bad and kill Jedi and get burned up and everything. No, this is not only at least as good as Luceno's Labyrinth of Evil or Dark Lord in terms of how well-written it is, it both confirms and debunks a lot of fan theories that came up in the wake of the non-answers of Episode III, and it turns some other things right upside down.
Probably the biggest shocker: There were indeed two Sith Lords at the time of Episode I. Darth Sidious was the apprentice, though. Maul--his birth name--was convinced he was the apprentice by Darth Sidious, given the title "Darth" to placate him, and never knew that Sidious answered to Darth Plagueis. Maul was never intended to be anything beyond the weapon he comes across as being in Episode I.
There's also an off-hand comment that seems to confirm that Darth Plagueis did, indeed, create Anakin Skywalker. Not sure if there will be further confirmation of this later on.
If nothing else, it's cool to see a book that portrays the Sith as anti-heroes for once, and doesn't read like poorly-written fanfic. And it's downright huge to get into Palpatine's head for what I think is the first time.
If you give even the smallest piece of a shit about Star Wars anymore, read Darth Plagueis. No shit. This is the single biggest story since Episode III. It might even be bigger than Episode III, since we already knew Anakin would turn bad and kill Jedi and get burned up and everything. No, this is not only at least as good as Luceno's Labyrinth of Evil or Dark Lord in terms of how well-written it is, it both confirms and debunks a lot of fan theories that came up in the wake of the non-answers of Episode III, and it turns some other things right upside down.
Probably the biggest shocker: There were indeed two Sith Lords at the time of Episode I. Darth Sidious was the apprentice, though. Maul--his birth name--was convinced he was the apprentice by Darth Sidious, given the title "Darth" to placate him, and never knew that Sidious answered to Darth Plagueis. Maul was never intended to be anything beyond the weapon he comes across as being in Episode I.
There's also an off-hand comment that seems to confirm that Darth Plagueis did, indeed, create Anakin Skywalker. Not sure if there will be further confirmation of this later on.
If nothing else, it's cool to see a book that portrays the Sith as anti-heroes for once, and doesn't read like poorly-written fanfic. And it's downright huge to get into Palpatine's head for what I think is the first time.

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I saw the commercial for TPM in 3D. I thought to myself, "You know, I haven't been to a 3D movie yet, and I don't think my kids have even seen TPM and it is the only one of the three prequels I can actually sit through. Maybe we should go." So I asked my kids. They said no. Oh well.
One other thing. Is it worth buying the OT on blue ray if I already have it on DVD?
One other thing. Is it worth buying the OT on blue ray if I already have it on DVD?
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If you can live with George Lucas making what may be the single worst change to the saga, given that it fucks up one of the great scenes in cinematic history.
Hate to sound like a whiny fanboy, but that made me decide against upgrading to blu-ray.
Hate to sound like a whiny fanboy, but that made me decide against upgrading to blu-ray.

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Lucas must have took it from this:
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Jaesus. Obvious Director is Obvious. What the fuck goes through his head? "damn, my movie is just too subtle...for 18 month olds. Must. Fix. Movie."anarky wrote:If you can live with George Lucas making what may be the single worst change to the saga, given that it fucks up one of the great scenes in cinematic history.
Hate to sound like a whiny fanboy, but that made me decide against upgrading to blu-ray.
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Everyone is hearing the line incorrectly. The script said I was having a stroke during that scene and my line was "Stroooke!" That's what kills me before Luke escapes on the shuttle. There is a deleted scene where Palpatine crushes the medic droids that come in to assist me.


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Says the VW Dealer.
is that part time orrr...
What the hell happened to you?


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