DCU : The Original Universe

GREEN HULK · Post by **GREEN HULK** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:52 am

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Post by **vynsane** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:31 pm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Eternal Padawan
 I'm gonna double post and ask if I can have a
Slade Wilson, Deathstroke the Terminator Avatar.

Maybe that Mike Zeck shot from his first issue where he's standing on the roof with the M-60 slung over his shoulder. God fucking damn, Slade is the SHIZZ NIT. I'd pay Slade to bust open Rob Liefeld's nutsack with his steel toed orange bucaneer boot. But Slade would do it for free.
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well, i didn't hear back from you with a pic, but i found one for you

it's reserved for you, so it's yours if you want it...

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:29 am

Hell yeah!

If all my action figures had a mega brawl, my DC Direct Slade would be last man standing!

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:13 pm

So whats new in the DCU? Anybody reading the All-Star stuff? Although I love Jim Lee's art, the story in Batman is just sucking seven kinds of ass. What the fuck is Frank Miller doing? And then they pretty much wasted most of issue three ( which was fucking late to begin with) on some Black Canary bullshit. Hello? Is this All-Star Black Canary? Fuck no.

The Infinite Crisis is shaping up nicely. I'm looking forward to the 52 series and the ONE YEAR LATER reboot of all the titles. I think this is actually the first time in my life I've been more excited about DC than Marvel. With the exception of a few books, Marvel is getting stale.

jjreason · Post by **jjreason** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:08 pm

Oooooh.... All Star Batman 3 is out? I haven't been for the past 2 weeks so I'll need to head over and get that. Fuck the writing - all I care about is Jim Lee's Vicki Vale in more Victoria's Secret shwag. Damn, that's a hot comic bitch.

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:14 am

Infinite Crisis 4 came out yesterday. I guess I'm having a problem with the cavalier disregard for life during these huge crossovers. During the course of my reading lifetime I have watched and enjoyed months and months of character introduction and buildup. Sometimes these characters fall by the wayside and I understand that. But each one of them still has the potential for exploration. Somebody took the time to create that character and their interactions with others shaped who they are and were. One of my favorite storylines from a decade ago was the Titans Hunt by Wolfman and Grummett. It was the tenth anniversary of the New Titans book and the creative team did a complete 180 and cast off the established team ( by kidnapping them) and thrust the readership into an intriguing mystery by introducing a whole new team, Led by Deathstroke the Terminator no less. Every month had a shocking cliffhanger ending. For those months that was by far my favorite title every month. And within a few pages of Infinite Crisis 4, Geoff Johns manages to knock Pantha's head from her shoulders. Eviscerate Wildebeest. Flash Freeze Redstar. Not to mention kill off a few members of both the Justice Society and Doom patrol. Sure, these characters had been regulated to background status. But any character in the right hands can be a goldmine. Except now these characters can't be. They are gone forever.

Also, incidentally,is Wally West.

anarky · Post by **anarky** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:38 am

So it must be a tradition to kill the Flash in any crossover with "Crisis" in the name, then?

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:58 am

Apparently. It was kinda confusing when it happened too.

SPOILER ALERT!!!

If you've not read Crisis on Infinite Earths, at the end theres only one earth where there used to be many. But Earth-2 Superman, his wife Lois, a benelovent Lex Luthor, and Superboy-Prime all survived in a pocket universe. Now they're back and it seems Superboy and Lex are the new villains.

Anyway, Superboy-Prime goes batshit and it takes the combined forces of Teen Titans, JSA, and Doom Patrol(including all their part time cannon fodder reservists) to stop him handing the regular Superboy his cloned ass. Eventually Wally, Bart"Kid Flash" Allen and Jay"Golden Age Flash" Garrick grab him and run him into somewhere/when else. It's unclear where. Jay stumbles and falls behind and Wally somehow ( again, confusing) contacts his wife to say goodbye to her and the newborn twins. She grabs ahold of him and POP! everyones gone except Jay who announces to the survivors of the Superboy throwdown that that speed force is...gone. Where's Wally? Where's his family? Where's Bart? Where's evil Superboy? I'm confused....

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:30 pm

So I'm reading Supergirl, drawn by the Michael Turner clone Ian Churchill, and it occurs to me that Super Heroines are all the biggest skanky sluts ever. Have you seen what they wear? Supergirl's miniskirt is slung so low on her hips I'm pretty sure you should be able to see the goods ABOVE her belt line. Seriously. And if it was really slung that low, theres no way half of her trim, taut ass crack wouldn't be hangin out of the back. Except when he draws her from behind, it's conveniently covered. And in the issue where shes fighting the Outsiders, ALL the Outsider chicks have this problem with not coering thier boobies with anything more than a little bit of duct tape. Grace wears a bra, Thunder carries on in something that would never hold up in real life. And Starfire, lovely Starfire, we all know what her alien bathing suit covers ( or doesn't).

Now I'm all about the horny teenage boy fanbase getting their rocks off, but when you step back and look at it, its a little ridiculous. Slutty Super Sluts.

anarky · Post by **anarky** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:27 am

So they're bringing back Batwoman. WTF? I don't care that she's a lesbian now, but she represents the worst of the pre-Crisis universe.

We've had Ace the Bat-Hound, two Batgirls, Bat-Mite, and now Batwoman. All we need is Bat Shark Repellent and the Bat-tusi now.

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:10 am

And it's Kathy Kane no less! Double WTF??? I can reluctantly see bringing Batwoman into the mix, but have it be Sasha Bordeaux or Selina Kyle or Renee Montoya. Kathy fucking Kane???

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:24 am

Well. I have been reading a LOT of old DC back issues.

Catwoman, Birds of Prey, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Flash, Outsiders.

I've never been the biggest DC reader outside of Batman and the occasional Justice League, but reading these long runs of books from the last seven years, its becoming very clear to me what separates DC from Marvel.

In a word: Legacy. The main heroes of the DC universe have a familial connection to the heroes of the Golden Age and to those who will carry their mantle. Almost every major hero has been replaced in the monthlies at one point. Some permanently. And friendships formed in one era affect those of another like spiderwebs. It is very intriguing and I never really got it until I had the chance to sit down and read huge blocks of comics like that.

Superman has Superboy, Supergirl (several), Steel, Eradicator etc

Batman, trained by Wildcat, has Nightwing, Robin, Catwoman, Oracle, Batgirl, Jason Todd, Azrael, etc

Wonder Woman has Wonder Girl, Donna Troy, Artemis, her mother etc

Flash, Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen, not to mentio other speedsters like Max Mercury and Jesse Quick

Green Lantern, whether it's original Alan Scott and his children Jade and Obsidian or Hal Jordan, and his replacements Guy Gardner, John Stewart, and Kyle Rayner and the rest of the Corps.

Green Arrow has Arsenal, his son Connor, the new Speedy, Black Canary.

From the JSA to the JLA to the Teen Titans. Members of the latter growing up, "graduating" to the A-Team, but still mentoring the "4th generation" heroes. Members of the JSA carrying on for their parents and grandparents in some cases. it's quite a complex tapestry which i thoroughly enjoy delving into. I don't know that i would invest monthly in their exploits, being a die hard Marvelite, but I am glad i had the opportunity to read these books and look forward to the next batch.

Eternal Padawan · Post by **Eternal Padawan** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:52 pm

Leave it to Grant Morrison to produce something so outstanding. And to do it in a single issue. As I read, I tried thinking of ways that this might have been told as a conventional issue and couldn't. It's too descriptive, intuitive, too emotionally direct. Clearly this format would not work on a monthly basis, even for these characters and under the hand of a storyteller like Morrison. But for this one issue, he grinds the psyche of Clown faced maniac into your head and enraptures you with eternal dance between the Joker and his "straight man". The opening scene at the cemetary sets the tone, and on every page you feel for characters you have never met, nor will ever see again. The images are spartan, but enough to galvanize the story. "Listening" to him rattle off the horrid things that make him laugh, witnessing his lunacy unravel before your very eyes, until the crescendo and a splash page of a grinning maniac's visage that will haunt you for days to come. This is simply an amazing amazing "comic book.

Please tell me you've read it and what you think.

jjreason · Post by **jjreason** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:34 am

I promise to pick it up, EP, but I won't be doing that until the week after next (as I'm going out of town tomorrow). Don't think I'm ignoring you.

Diabolical · Post by **Diabolical** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:40 pm

I picked it up today, but haven't had a chance to read it yet.

Looking at it reminded me a bit of IDW's "Lore" by Ashley Wood. It's about half comic, half text (often more text than comic).

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