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Fantastic Four.

Postby jjreason » Wed Sep 25, 2002 3:37 pm

Marvel's first family has been getting a nice workout over the past year or so from Carlos Pacheco. I recommend checking out his work with Jeph Loeb which started in the current volume at issue 36. Pacheco is blamed somewhat for rehashing John Byrne's work on the title, but what better source could you use for influence?

FF. Monthly by Marvel. Beautiful Pacheco art and stories that are helped along by dialogue maven Loeb. Worth the 3 bucks. Check it out.

What does everybody think of this title? It's seen a lot of ups and downs since 1961.

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Postby Jedi Knightrider 3000 » Wed Sep 25, 2002 6:59 pm

i didn't go in for FF really ever, 'til the FF 1234 miniseries by jae lee and grant morisson. when i heard about the new push on this book with waid and weiringo, and it being only 9 cents last month, i decided to pick it up. i love waid's writing, and for a while, wieringo was the only artist that was getting spider-man right, so i figured for 9 cents (actually, my store was giving them out for free...) what do i have to lose? i really like the characteriziation and the art. i am surprised how in two consecutive issues, however, they used the word "ass." i figured this for an all-ages book, and here is a (not very necessary) use of an explitive. i dunno...

jeph loeb is awesome... i'm not sure if i will pick up his and jim lee's batman or not...

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Postby jjreason » Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:04 am

The characters are solid. The book has nearly unlimited potential, as do most of Marvel's mainstays. Thank God they've actually been pursuing A list talent to make the Silver Age books as good as can be these days. Marvel might be as good right now as it's ever been.

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Postby anarky » Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:08 pm

[se] Maybe I might check this out. I'd written Marvel completely off about ten years ago, but I must admit that (aside from rendering the classic DeMatteis/Buscema Spectacular Spider-Man stories null and void) the new Spidey series looks not bad. I've always thought the characters have the most potential, but weren't used very well in the past several years.

Besides, Wieringo rules! I met him at several conventions before he hit the big-time, and he was a nice feller. (I assume he still is.) I've got the original art from this awesome two-page spread of Flash and Nightwing from one of his Flash issues, about eight or ten years back.

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Postby mabudon » Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:56 am

aww, I thought youse were talking about silver age stuff... King Kirby and Sturdy Steve et al....
Ditko is my favourite artist to ever draw Spidey, his weird elastic style of illustrating action art was possibly the most kinetically charged work ever put down....
Kirby's FF was awesome, doc dooms machines looked most menacing when drawn in the classic "Kirby-chanics" style, where you couldn't tell what the device did, but it sure looked dangerous... ahh the old days, when comics weren't all "ARRRRGGHHH"
I wish there were more "1963" comics these days....

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Postby jjreason » Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:10 pm

Check out Marvel's X-Statix with art by Allred. Very, very classic looking.

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Postby Eternal Padawan » Sat Apr 12, 2003 2:11 pm

whoa...ghost town here at vynsane central.

Did Grimm really fool anybody just by putting on a trenchcoat and shades?

He's a big freakin' orange rock dude!! I don't think a trenchcoat's gonna cut it in the disguise dept.

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Postby Jedi Knightrider 3000 » Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:39 pm

the newest story arc from waid/weiringo is over with the 500th issue (from old continuity...) and this arc has been INSANE!!! check it out, if you can... the new doom is even more ruthless and pitiless than ever, and it seems to be a new era for mr. fantastic, both intellectually and personally... can't wait to see what happens next!

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Postby Eternal Padawan » Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:09 am

I got the last two issues. ( 499 and 500). Waid and Weirengo are both leaving after 500 yeah? I thought I read that at the Marvel website. Some open letter from Quesada about "creative differences" between Waid and Bill Jemas. I dunno.

Doom as a mage? REED as a mage?? That'd be kinda cool if he kept up with that, became Strange's apprentice or something. Sometimes Marvel gets stuck in a rut with the staus quo of it's characters. It needs a good ruckusing up every once in a while. I'll maybe pick up the next few issues, but this title ain't as exciting to me as some of the other Marvel books right now.

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Postby jjreason » Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:43 pm

Mark Waid left an imprint on this book during his short tenure - and he left one on Reed's face, too. Wonder what's going to happen next?

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Postby vynsane » Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:49 pm

yeah, too bad the editor of the book took him off, thinking that HE himself could do a better job... GUH!

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Postby Eternal Padawan » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:27 pm

Reed's gonna start wearing Doom's mask.
501 comes out tomorrow (July 30th 2003) so i guess we'll see.

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Postby jjreason » Wed Jul 30, 2003 1:53 am

That's kinky. Imagine Sue's horror the first time Reed tries to saw one off with her while he's wearing that thing......

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Postby jjreason » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:37 pm

Authoritative Action part II dropped today, I haven't read it yet. Part I was crazy - Reed has assumed control of Latveria!!! Waid is going out with a bang, I guess.

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Postby jjreason » Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:10 am

Authoratative Action part III ended with Reed having used Doombots to stun Johnny and Ben after they located the HQ of the Latverian resistance cell. Freaky - EP you called it. Reed is turning into Doom, all that's left is the mask. Funny thing is Sue seems to be down with the whole thing. Im still really keen on this book.


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